Shortcomings of Alice, Scratch, Myro, etc.

Having taught a few CS0 courses, I got the impression that programming learning environments including those above enable beginners to do easy attractive and satisfying things, but do not automatically (at least) lead them to do the harder things.  I was particularly disappointed that the old version of Alice did not provide easy to use arrays that could be employed in teaching basic search and sorting algorithms.

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  • Muscle Factor X  On April 27, 2013 at 1:02 PM

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    • chaikens  On April 27, 2013 at 5:49 PM

      Thanks for asking. My information comes from personally having taught college students in several courses with Alice, Scratch and Myro (in different courses).

      I’ve more recently observed students who get 100% on the first CS1 project to write straight line code with no variables, to do turtle graphics, and the fall flat on the next project where they were asked to make and call parametrized methods in the same turtle drawing context.

  • chaikens  On December 15, 2011 at 3:53 PM

    Good news! Please keep up blogging on your experiences in becoming a programmer!
    S.Chaiken

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